Monday, May 17, 2010

A New Ceratopsian Piece

I "love" looking for work, and it has been going so "well". The one bright side is that I've had time in between failed applications to do some art! As today was a particularly pronounced day of lulls (between 3 rejections! a new record!!!), I decided rather than just revamping models, I'd build a scene with one of them.

Ta-da! I give you my new version of my male Styracosaurs. You can see a bigger version here (as blogger is still not letting pictures I upload enlargen! Anyone know how to fix this problem?)

I'm looking for some serious feedback from you Ceratopsian experts out there. I spent some major time reworking the skull in particular. What else needs anatomical tweaking?


Glendon Mellow said...

Looking great! I've always loved styracosaurus.

Maybe the problem with the photos not enlarging is the file sizes are already that big? If you're using "save for web" in Photoshop, that can happen if you make them too small.

Albertonykus said...

Nothing short of awesome!

I think that there was a study that came out in late 2009 or early 2010 about how ceratopsian feet should face out, and only three fingers should be bearing weight. (Example:

Nick Gardner said...

the gut is too narrow, too tight. those look like some really hungry styracosaurus (starving children in Africa??), I'd worry about the under chest being too broad, it almost seems too mammalian in the way you've set it up, and very un-dinosaur like.

the unguals seem too big...and the cheeks look really unrealistic...

you should also read tobin hieronymous' recent paper in the anatomical record about the extent of cornified tissue across the skull...

Glendon Mellow said...

Nick, I think the problem lies in how prehistorically and scientifically accurate Craig is aiming for. For myself, with my exuberant layman's knowledge, I recognized those as Styracosaurs right off.

Glad you have suggestions! That's one of the things I love about the online paleo community - people share.

Weapon of Mass Imagination said...

Nick- Cool thanks

Your right on the cheeks. They have been giving me trouble since I started building Dinosaurs, and will continue to be one of those things I work to come up with a proper (controllable) 3D solution too.

As for the chest, are you suggesting I simply narrow it, or is there some sort of structural problem with how I have them as well?

However my Styracosaurs have pretty big guts. If you look at the one on the left carefully this can be seen (he isn't square to the camera... more shoving his shoulder at it). However one the right is crotching very forward, which gives him the super model look. As he is more lined up for the camera he gives the appearance of skinness. It was a problem of fitting them both into this photograph, so they both have odd angles to the camera.

Lastly that cornified tissue sounds like a very fascinating paper. You won't happen to have a virtual copy would you? I don't really have journal or article access at moment.

Thanks for that. I'll try to throw out a revised version later on.

Weapon of Mass Imagination said...

Glendon- To start off with on the blogger enlargening problem, it is something specific to me. When I give the exact same version of pictures to Peter to upload they were instantly enlargenable.

So I'm assuming there must be a setting or something I'm unaware of. Though based on how no one else seems to know about it, maybe there is just something wrong with me :(

As for my Styracos, phew, everyone knows they are that at least!

All things considered I didn't do too bad on the scientific critique. I did a LOT of reworking on the skull, and if the only thing I got wrong was the cheeks (which again are a half measured fix to the problem), and some new research on facial tissue, that is awesome!

The rest of the body is overall the same as when I first built the Ceratopsian back in 2008. Which as you know with my stuff is two life times ago!

Weapon of Mass Imagination said...

Albertonykus- Glad you liked it.

As for the feet I'm waiting to hear the verdict. I was witness to a very lively debate between a few Alberta based researchers on just how Ceratopsians held their legs and feets. There doesn't appear to be a concensus just yet.

So I didn't touch this guys legs/arms much other then texturing.

Dinorider d'Andoandor said...

awesome poses!

make sure "large picture" is selected on that blogger picture uploading thing.